Thursday, November 23, 2017

New Group Promotes Jewish Kurdish Alliance & Kurdish Statehood

This so called "new group" are a clique of the usual suspects
Israel National News
Several prominent Jews in Europe and North America joined an organization fostering Jewish-Kurdish friendship and supporting independence for Iraqi Kurdistan.

The Jewish-American lawyer Alan Dershowitz joined the honorary board of the Brussels-based Jewish Coalition for Kurdistan last month, along with Irwin Cotler, a former justice minister of Canada, and Serge and Beate Klarsfeld, two well-known hunters of Nazis from Germany, the group’s founder and president, Joel Rubinfeld, told JTA Wednesday.
 Irwin Cotler, of course. Canadians should know who this Israel firster is? Cotler, by the way, was sanctioned by Russia back in 2014

 Flashback: Cotler and Ukrnazi's 2014

Flashback: Irwin Cotler Canada's Premiere Israel Firster


 "Cotler, who has been nominated by Prof. Alan Dershowitz for this year’s Nobel Peace Prize, was one of six recipients of honorary doctoral degrees conferred by Ben-Gurion University of the Negev" 
Birds of a feather flock together. Yes, they do. In more ways then one. Because all readers here are aware that Alan Dershowitz ties back to pedophile billionaire... Jeffrey Epstein 

Flashbacks:


Digression over let's get back to this new Jewish Kurdish Alliance group

"Also on the honorary board of the coalition are Rabbi Abraham Cooper, the associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and Charles Tannock, a British lawmaker at the European Parliament and foreign affairs and human rights spokesman for the UK Conservative delegation.
Pro Kurdistan demonstration in Israel
The unveiling Wednesday of Rubinfeld’s group is among several high-profile actions in support of Kurdish national aspirations by Jews following the September independence referendum in Kurdistan, the autonomous region in northern Iraq.
Interesting how it is the Jews are so very, very, 'concerned' with Kurdish national aspirations
On Friday, Bernard-Henri Lévy, a French-Jewish philosopher and longtime supporter of Kurdish independence, will attend a screening at the United Nations headquarters in New York of his documentary film on the subject titled “Peshmerga,” which is the Kurdish-language name of the Kurdish combatants. Levy is not a member of the Jewish Coalition for Kurdistan.
Rubinfeld is a former president of the federation of French-speaking Jewish communities of Belgium and founder of the Belgian League against Anti-Semitism. He unveiled the pro-Kurdish group while in Israel, where he is slated to attend a first-of-its kind conference on Kurdish independence at Israel’s Knesset.

Scheduled for Nov. 29, the 70th anniversary of the successful vote on the UN Partition Plan for Palestine, the event is titled “Kurdistan and Israel: Together Toward Peace and Stability in the Middle East.” The conference is being organized by Zionist Union lawmaker Ksenia Svetlona. In addition to Israeli lawmakers, members of the Kurdish Jewish community and activists like Rubinfeld, Kurdish civil society leaders also will attend.
That cannot be coincidental that these Israeli firsters picked the 70 anniversary date of the successful UN vote to partition Palestine as the date for their "first of a kind" conference, all about partitioning other nations for Israel 2.0 aka Kurdistan

“It’s natural that such an event should take place in Israel, which is today the best ally of Kurdistan today, and perhaps its only one, unfortunately,” said Rubinfeld, who began lobbying for the Kurdish national cause two years ago. “There is widespread understanding of the rightfulness of the Kurdish cause and its strategic importance” in Israel, he added.
When you consider the reality of the push for a "Kurdish state" then yes, it is very natural that this event takes place in Israel, on the day it is set to take place!

Flashback from two years ago:  Kurdistan aka “Second Israel”- Ethnic Cleansing the Indigenous of the Middle East

Considering the importance to Israel, in creating this state, as an expansion of Israel - it should be clear to all why I wrote the posts suggesting it is way too early to call the demise of Kurdistan ! Way too early to make that claim, sorry folks!

Flashbacks: 
 Israeli news continues:
Israel was among the first countries in the world to support the establishment of a Kurdish state following a statement on the issue by Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. Israel in the past had remained silent on Kurdish national ambitions, which Turkey, a major trade partner of Israel and previously also a key ally, has long opposed.

While a majority of voters in Kurdistan supported independence in the September referendum, the Iraqi government said it does not recognize the referendum’s results and implemented various sanctions, including a ban on all outgoing and incoming flights from the Kurdish autonomy. Amid pressure from Baghdad, Kurdish militia soldiers last month ceded dozens of forward positions to Iraqi army troops, in what Rubinfeld decried as “a great accomplishment for Iran.”

Iran is widely seen as dictating various policies and actions of the government of Iraq. “The Peshmerga were abandoned by the United States under Donald Trump,” charged Rubinfeld.

Following clashes between Kurdish Peshmerga soldiers and Iraqi Security Forces in the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk in October, President Trump said he is “not taking sides.” The State Department said it “strongly opposes” the referendum on independence, preferring a dialogue facilitated by the United States and United Nations.

“There is a kinship between the two peoples, the Jewish one and the Kurdish one, that transcends merely political calculus,” Rubinfeld said. We are two nations of several millions people who by and large both stand for Western values such as tolerance, progress, equal rights for women and who, in the Middle East and beyond, stand up to tyranny and fanaticism.”

Rubinfeld added that the Israeli flag is to many Kurds a second national symbol “because they identify with Israel and the Jews.”

Iraq’s parliament in Baghdad voted last month to criminalize flying the Israeli flag in the country, after they appeared at several Kurdish rallies in the lead up and aftermath of the referendum.
Double think.
 Both people stand up for what they label as western values such as destabilization, ethnic cleansing, intolerance and supporting fanaticism to the extreme? While destroying nations, culture and history. These are not my values and I'm from the so called west. Since they don't stand for me or my values.. then I cannot accept their claim- It's as simple as that!

Wednesday, November 22, 2017

Sochi Meeting: Turkey, Russia, Iran Back Syria's Sovereignty

I'm not certain how sovereignty is being defined here, but, nonetheless, that's the claim.

AA
Rouhani, Putin, Erdogan
"Turkey, Russia and Iran have reiterated their support for Syria's sovereignty and territorial integrity.
"The heads of state reaffirmed their strong commitment to sovereignty, independence, unity and territorial integrity of the Syrian Arab Republic," according to a joint statement released following a trilateral meeting between the presidents of the three countries Wednesday.
 The presidents called on “the representatives of the government of the Syrian Arab Republic and the opposition that are committed to the sovereignty, independence, unity, territorial integrity and non-fractional character of Syrian state to participate constructively in the Syrian National Dialogue Congress in Sochi in the near future", it added.
 "The presidents expressed satisfaction with the current level of tripartite coordination on maintaining and strengthening the cease-fire regime in Syria, of which Iran, Russia and Turkey are guarantors," it said.
"The presidents emphasized that the creation of the de-escalation areas established in Astana process in Syria have been quite efficient and greatly help to reduce violence, alleviate the humanitarian suffering, curb the flow of refugees, and start working to provide conditions for the safe return of refugees and internally-displaced persons," it added.
"The presidents decided that Iran, Russia and Turkey would continue their coordinated efforts to ensure that the progress in reduction of violence is irreversible. 
"They agreed to assist the Syrians in restoring unity of the country, and achieving а political solution of the crisis through an inclusive, free, fair and transparent Syrian-led and Syrian-owned process, leading to а constitution enjoying the support of the Syrian people and free and fair elections with the participation of all eligible Syrians under appropriate un supervision," it added.
The leaders also underscored the need for "rapid, safe and unhindered" humanitarian access to Syria. They also called on the international community to support the process of de-escalation and stabilization in the country."
Assad in Sochi in advance of this latest meeting:

 The warm and cordial welcome extended to the Syrian president by Vladimir Putin and senior Russian officials — mainly generals led by the Minister of Defense, Sergei Shoigu, who were taking part in defense-related talks — sends strong signals that, for Russia, Assad is not only part of the solution for Syria, but also a legitimate leader who the Kremlin expects to stay in power for some years.


I couldn't help but notice Kurdish media is presenting a concept that Iran has expressed no real concerns about border changes... Sure reads to me as if they have! And this is not a first.

Example LINK: 

"Putin and Rouhani did not mention the Kurds" Oh, really?

Rouhani- "attempts to change geographical borders in the region would eventually fail; and that American and Israeli interference would not produce their desired results" Clearly a reference to the US/Israel backed Kurds.
 
From the same Kurdish media article:"A top commander of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) which Ankara views as the parent organization of the YPG this week called on Putin to deny Ankara green light for any (Afrin) operation"

PKK in Syria, folks...

The view from Iran:
 Before his departure for the Black Sea resort of Sochi, the Iranian president said any attempt to  change geographical borders in the region will fail, vowing the Islamic Republic’s resolve to continue its fight against terrorists until their eradication.

Rouhani further expressed hope that the Sochi summit will help pave the way for the Syrian nation to build a “good future,” Press TV reported.

The president emphasized that it is up to the Syrian people to decide their own fate, adding that the Arab nation’s future “will not be in the hands of foreign powers.”

He also hailed the victories of Iraqi and Syrian nations in the face of terrorists, highlighting the role of Iran and Lebanon’s Hezbollah resistance movement in the regional fight against terror.

“These achievements do not mean that the issue of terrorism and Daesh no longer exists. But [the terror group's] foundations have fallen apart,” which means it does not control any territory where it can claim statehood.

He said Iran knew from the very first day that using terrorists by certain states as a tool to push their own agendas would never succeed; that attempts to change geographical borders in the region would eventually fail; and that American and Israeli interference would not produce their desired results.

The Iranian chief executive voiced concerns about the security situation in the Middle East, and criticized attempts by Washington and Tel Aviv to fan the flames of tension in the region.
 
Sochi, SANA- President Bashar al-Assad held a summit meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Sochi City in the presence of senior Russian political and military officials, during a work visit he paid to Russia on Tuesday.
President Putin congratulated President al-Assad on the successes achieved by Syria in the framework of combating terrorism and on approaching victory over terrorism.
Putin underlined the importance of the timing of the visit in increasing coordination between the two sides, holding additional consultations, and listening to the assessment of the Syrian leadership on the situation in Syria and on the shape of the next steps as well as its vision on the political process and the role of the UN in it before the summit during which he will meet his Iranian and Turkish counterparts in Sochi, Russia.
For his part, President al-Assad thanked President Putin for the warm welcome, saying that this meeting comes after two years and few weeks from launching the Russian military operation which supports the Syrian Arab Army in its war against terrorism and which has made significant achievements on different levels, on top, the humanitarian, military and political levels.
President al-Assad indicated that the victories achieved against terrorism led to the return of security to many areas and subsequently, citizens returned to them and the wheel of normal  life began to move again, in addition to pushing the political track forwards to find solution to the crisis in Syria.
President al-Assad clarified that the Russian policy has been active on different axes and all of them are important, particularly through affirming the necessity of the UN adherence to its Charter which asserts the sovereignty of the states and the noninterference in their internal affairs and the right of the nations to decide their destiny.
He underlined the importance of this meeting to coordinate on the highest levels between the two sides on different issues which the two countries are interested in including the continuation of combating terrorism, the exerted efforts with regard to the political track, the national dialogue congress and the next tripartite summit in Sochi.
The two presidents also discussed the current preparations for holding the National Dialogue Congress in Sochi in Russia, as President al-Assad thanked President Putin and the Russian leaderships for the efforts they exerted in this framework, affirming that Syria supports any political work, particularly after the decline of terrorism and that all doors are open locally and internationally to support this track “therefore, we hope that Russia will always succeed in what it says and does…to succeed in convincing the others to not interfere in any political solution, and to only support it from abroad without any interference.”
President al-Assad asserted that what is important today is to stop the bloodshed, and that Syria is ready to work with any country ready to contribute to the political solution as long as it is based on the Syrian sovereignty and the Syrian decision.

Tuesday, November 21, 2017

Saad Hariri Lands, On a Well Chosen Eve, in Lebanon-

Guardian
Lebanon’s prime minister, Saad Hariri, returned to his home country late on Tuesday, on the eve of its independence day and after a nearly three-week absence dominated by his surprise resignation

His plane touched down at Beirut international airport shortly before midnight, a statement from his office said.

Hariri had promised he would return to Lebanon in time to mark its 47th independence day on Wednesday and would clarify his position.

On Tuesday he travelled to Cairo to see the Egyptian president, Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, whom he thanked for his support for Lebanon.

Hours later Hariri flew from Cairo to Larnaca in Cyprus where he met late at night with President Nicos Anastasiades, said a Cyprus government spokesman.
After a brief visit he flew on to Beirut where he is expected to take part in the independence day military parade early on Wednesday and the customary reception at the presidential palace.

 A dual Saudi citizen who has previously(??) enjoyed Riyadh’s backing, Hariri resigned in a mysterious broadcast from the Saudi capital

Questions remain over whether the resignation will stand, forcing negotiations on a new government, or if he might withdraw it.

Under Lebanon’s constitution the president is bound to accept a premier’s resignation however it is tendered, according to the Lebanese constitutional expert Edmond Rizk.

Although it is not outlined in the constitution, Rizk said, custom dictates “this resignation is supposed to be submitted to the president of the republic”.

A resignation brings down the government and the president then engages in consultations to select a new prime minister to form a cabinet.

In Lebanon, divided for more than a decade between a pro-Saudi camp and a Tehran-backed alliance, that process typically takes months of political wrangling.

But the discussions also aim to strike a balance between the country’s diverse religious communities.

As part of Lebanon’s presidential-parliamentary system, the premier must be a Sunni Muslim, the president a Maronite Christian and the speaker of parliament a Shia Muslim.

More than a week ago Hariri said he could walk back from his resignation if Hezbollah withdrew from regional conflicts, including Syria.

Hezbollah, whose forces are fighting in neighbouring Syria along government troops, has said it still considers Hariri the current premier. “When he comes we will see. We’re open to all dialogue and discussion,” its chief, Hassan Nasrallah said on Monday.

But if Hariri stands firm Aoun has two options: either rename him premier or choose another prominent Sunni figure to lead a new cabinet. “If Hariri’s consultations lead to a new government, that would be a way out,” said Rizk.

Aoun tipped Hariri as premier in 2016 as part of a deal across political lines that ended a two and a half year stalemate in Lebanon.

Hariri’s two terms as prime minister have both ended abruptly.

In January 2011, as he was meeting with then-US president Barack Obama in Washington, Hezbollah and its allies withdrew their ministers and collapsed Hariri’s government.

His unexpected resignation earlier this month was seen as part of an escalating power struggle between Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran, which back opposing sides in the conflicts in Syria and Yemen.

From earlier:

Monday:

Zimbabwe Coup: Mugabe Out- Mnangagwa In

Link
Emmerson Mnangagwa
 
Former Vice President Emmerson Mnangagwa congratulated Zimbabweans after former President Robert Mugabe resigned on Tuesday evening as pressure mounted for him to step down.
Mnangagwa said that he is on his way back to Zimbabwe after going into self-imposed exile following his dismissal on 6 November. Said Mnangagwa:
I want to congratulate the people of Zimbabwe on reaching this historic moment. Together we will ensure a peaceful transition to the consolidation of our democracy, and bring in a fresh start for all Zimbabweans and foster peace and unity. As I make my way back home, I look forward together with you the people of Zimbabwe to tackle the political and economic challenges facing our beloved country Zimbabwe. God bless Zimbabwe.

Recall my mention of Mnangagwa being in South Africa? 
Flashback: What did South Africa Know About the Zimbabwe Coup?

"She said Mnangagwa was allowed to enter South Africa after he was fired and was then allowed to return to Zimbabwe after the military made its move on Tuesday, suggesting that South Africa had some knowledge of the developments" 

Clearly South Africa's government was aware that a coup was going to take place, giving shelter and protection to Mnangagwa.What other nations shared that awareness?

Flashback : Mugabe under "house arrest" Emmerson Mnangawa, Man of the Hour

In this post I touched on the gold, diamonds and platinum resources of Zimbabwe 

Let's talk diamonds.

From an older article, but, I've little reason to doubt the very big problem of an over abundance of diamonds in Zimbabwe had been appropriately dealt with under Mugabe.

Aljazeera 2011-

Zimbabwe's $800bn Marange diamond fields may collapse the market if not soon brought within official channels. Supa Mandiwanzira, a representative of Zimbabwe's Diamond Consortium, stated that "we have the potential to destroy the whole industry" by flooding the markets. This was echoed by Zimbabwean Mines Minister Obert Mpofu, who catalysed a "walkout" by NGOs like PAC from the KP in June when he stated that diamonds would be sold with or without KP certification.
So, while for Western governments Zimbabwe presents a political problem, for the diamond industry (and diamond-producing nations) Zimbabwe presents a dangerous economic crisis in the making.

 There's been talk that diamond interests were behind the coup.. quite possible.
South Africa is also a diamond 'producing' nation- the shared interest in controlling the diamond market could see them playing a role in the coup- 
I cannot accept the idea that there were no outsiders involved in the overthrow of Mugabe.
 

Monday, November 20, 2017

Trudeau Government's "Returning Terrorist Integration"

So, let me get this straight? The government of the day, which happens to be the Liberals, are all set to "provide the appropriate disengagement and reintegration" for those that joined ISIS/Daesh. Superficially (on the surface/externally or outwardly ) we're supposed to believe that ISIS are brutal killers, that had to be ruthlessly put down but - we're going to be real nice to them all.

This concept only makes sense when one realizes these persons and their families were employed as an irregular mercenary army. Hired to destroy, destabilize and kill on behalf of Canada, as full participants, in a larger political agenda. Known as remake the middle east and north africa. Yah, that same agenda I've talked about for years now.

Accept reality boys and girls. Our government employed brutal killers to destroy nations, displace people and redraw borders. And now they are going to bring them home!

CBC: Radio Canada International

Farah Mohammed Shirdon of Calgary was featured in a Daesh video burning his Canadian passport and declaring jihad on the west. He was apparently killed in Mosul in 2015

Former University of Ottawa student John Maguire, 24, was reported killed in Kobani in 2015
Two of Canada's own. Apparently and reported killed, but, most definitely not confirmed killed. That's not what's being reported.

Here's the tourtierre and poutine
The Canadian government position however, differs from most of the other coalition members. During an appearance on CBC broadcast Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said “Canada does not engage in death squads”.  Responding to a CBC question, a government spokesperson also wrote,  “Returning foreign terrorist travellers and their families, specifically women and children, require the appropriate disengagement and reintegration support”.
Yes sireee.... returning foreign terrorists traveller and their families will have to be appropriately disengaged and have reintegration support

USA Today reported on this phenomena also, but then, it went away

Justin Trudeau Calls ISIS "Returning Islamic Travellers" | USA Today ...

https://www.usatoday24x7.com/justin-trudeau-calls-isis-returning-islamic-travellers/
Returning foreign terrorist travellers and their families, specifically women and children, require the appropriate disengagement and reintegration support.”.

Willy Loman @ American Everyman covered the news that Britain will do the same:

Britain’s Islamic State Fighters Are Returning Home Without Punishment

"Terrorists who traveled to Syria are allowed to walk the British streets and could even have their rent paid by taxpayers"

(Of course they are. The 5-Eyes contracted them out and sent them there as destabilization contractors, proxy warriors. I’m surprised the damn Queen didn’t have a ticker-tape parade for them. And of course they are getting benefits. That’s called “PAYMENT FOR SERVICES RENDERED”)

Mercenaries: it's the only logical explanation for the two governments stance- Face it! 

Last thought: The CBC article shows Canadian citizens who were employed as mercenaries.. but how many others, foreigners, were recruited from the region and are being rewarded for their service to Canada?

From earlier today:

Charles Manson Dead: Mind Controlled Helter Skelter

Charles Manson Dead: Mind Controlled Helter Skelter

Charles Manson, dead at 83- Helter Skelter became synonymous with this man and the multiple  murders he's alleged to have orchestrated- but did NOT participate in.

Helter Skelter 
 1:in undue haste, confusion, or disorder
2 :in a haphazard manner


The "family"

Psychology Today: The Cult of Personality?
“Manson has stood out as being of particular psychological fascination and revulsion because of his alleged ability to exercise such a mental hold over others, getting them to perform brutal slayings under his influence.”
 Because Mr Manson didn’t actually, physically kill any of the persons he actually did serve time for “murdering”. Odd, that fact?

Manson orchestrated a group of followers who went on a murder spree that took place between July and August 1969. They killed actress Sharon Tate, who was 8½ months pregnant and married to movie director Roman Polanski, but was stabbed multiple times as she begged for the life of her unborn child.

Four other people at Tate's home were also savagely murdered while the very next day, a couple in Los Angeles, Leno and Rosemary LaBianca, were also slain by Manson's followers. The killings became known collectively as the Tate-LaBianca murders.

Manson was not there at any of these killings, but was nonetheless convicted of murder for directing his followers to murder. Does such ability to control others lie within a particular personality, or is it more the result of particular psychological needs in followers which get manipulated and exploited by a devious personality?

We'll get to where Manson was at the time the murders took place...... Near the end of the post.

How Charles Manson Brought an Abrupt End to the 60's
Charles Manson, the notorious cult leader who directed a series of brutal murders in the 1960s, has passed away at age 83.
Authorities said Manson died from “natural causes,” a stock phrase often used to describe celebrity deaths.
Yup, Charles Manson the celebrity.

Radio Australia
Charles Manson, the notorious cult leader who directed his followers to commit a string of brutal murders, came to represent the worst excesses of a divided society spinning out of control, and a generation at war with its elders, writes Mark Bannerman.

For much of his life before turning to murder he indulged in petty crime and violence, spending much of life in jail.

In jail he learnt how to take punishment and to manipulate everything and anyone to his own purpose.

In 1967, finally free, he headed for San Francisco recruiting future followers, many of them young homeless women drawn to the city with the hope of peace, love and free drugs.
Soon they were back in Los Angeles following the man they would come to see as their leader and saviour.

At first his plans involved becoming a pop star. He wrote songs and befriended Dennis Wilson from the Beach Boys. Wilson tried to get him a recording contract introducing him to record producer, Terry Melcher.
SON of DORIS DAY: Terry Melcher (L)  is pictured here in the studio in 1965 with The Byrds.

Coincidentally? Or not.: Charles Manson's Hollywood
Charles Manson became convinced his best chance at rock stardom was impressing Terry Melcher, a record executive who had made stars out of The Byrds, and who was also the son of one of old Hollywood's most wholesome, carefree Establishment stars, Doris Day. Terry and his girlfriend, Candice Bergen, had long lived at 10050 Cielo Drive, and sublet the house to Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate months before the murders.
We are all aware the Mr Polanski is a pedophile.. 

Flashback 2009: Roman Palanski, former Laurel Canyon Resident, arrested???

BBC- On this day
"The crucial point here was that Manson did not physically kill anyone. Although he had gone with six Family members on the second night to the LaBianca's home, he had not used a weapon.( Was he really present?)
Instead he had successfully manipulated his followers to commit the most terrible slaughter.
An abrupt end to the Summer of Love
When it came time to prosecute Manson this fact made life very tough for the prosecution.

Conspiracy to murder is a difficult charge to prove.

What Manson had not counted on was locking horns with a brilliant prosecutor, Vincent Bugliosi.

Bugliosi laid out the evidence describing what Manson had told his followers about the Beatles songs and the need to commit "Helter Skelter".
Does that strike anyone, other then me,  as cross promotion? Product Placement? To help sell the White Album...To promote whatever messages the music was delivering. And yah there is science, rarely discussed, but widely known,  behind that concept.

Flashback : Music has Charms to Aggravate, Incite, Distress and Soothe the Savage Breast

Charlie's Angels?

Musick has Charms to sooth a savage Breast,
To soften Rocks, or bend a knotted Oak.
I've read, that things inanimate have mov'd,
And, as with living Souls, have been inform'd,
By Magick Numbers and persuasive Sound.
What then am I? Am I more senseless grown
Than Trees, or Flint? O force of constant Woe!
'Tis not in Harmony to calm my Griefs.......



Being careful not to paint Manson as insane, Bugliosi argued Manson did not believe his own story but used it to brainwash his people.
It was a brilliant legal strategy. The court accepted the argument and the evidence set out before it, and Manson and three of his followers were locked up.

Although Bugliosi was appalled by Manson and the people who followed him, he admitted watching him and studying his life, the prosecutor was astonished by his power to bend people's wills to his own service.

As a prosecutor in more than a hundred major cases, he admitted that while there may have been more horrific murders than the ones Manson engineered in US criminal history, it was his ability to influence others at a distance that singled him out.
Charles Manson's Ohio Roots
Kathleen was also absent for much of Manson's early life. She was imprisoned  with her brother in 1939 for hustling men in bars and setting them up for her brother to beat and rob, according to a 1970 Enquirer article.

The young boy was sent to McMechen, W.V. in 1942 to live with extended family. He and his mother ended up in Indianapolis in 1945 after she was released.

His mother put him up for foster care, but a court stepped in and sent him to a series of boys' homes and reformatories.

In a New York Times article from 1970, one of Manson's friends from the homes recalled how charming the boy was at such a young age.

"Charlie had to be persuasive, it was the only way he could survive. Otherwise, he would have been dead long ago." said the unidentified friend.

Manson ran away from the boys' homes repeatedly and was placed in a series of penal institutions including the Federal Reformatory in Chilicothe. He was paroled in 1951 at the age of 21, followed by other brushes with the law.
Stealing cars, pimping, and forging government checksin the late 1950's landed the Manson in federal prison in Washington state until 1967.
Manson then traveled to the Haight-Ashbury neighborhood of in San Francisco, gathering a devoted following of hippies who followed the manipulative man throughout southern California.
Did he go to Haight Ashbury? And gather a devoted following of hippies? Or did he settle straight into the Laurel Canyon neighbourhood?

TIME
At the time, (of the murders? Cause the article sure reads that way!) Manson was in police custody in connection with a different crime (auto theft) but police were hoping to bring charges against him for conspiracy and murder in these cases. They did so shortly after, and Manson was found guilty of those crimes in early
 1971.
According to TIME's reporting Mr Manson was in police custody when the killings took place.
How could he have been charged with the murder? 
How could he have "influenced" the alleged killers while incarcerated? Of course it's been reported he 'influenced them from afar". Is that credible? Requoting from above
" his ability to influence others at a distance that singled him out."
Excerpt from original late 60's reporting

Last week Los Angeles police announced that they had solved the five murders and three others as well. If they are correct, the alleged murderers were even stranger and more bizarre than their crimes. The police case was based on the tale of an accused murderer, Susan Denise Atkins, 21. She sketched out a weird story of a mystical, semi-religious hippie drug-and-murder cult led by a bearded, demonic Mahdi able to dispatch his zombie-like followers, mostly girls wearing hunting knives, to commit at least eight murders and, police say, possibly four others.

Three members of the gang were arrested last week: Charles Watson, 23, Patricia Krenwinkel, 22, and Linda Kasabian, 20. The police also were seeking murder indictments against two other “family” members. The suspects, as well as the thin, vacuous Miss Atkins, were all members of a hippie-type gang who styled themselves slaves to their guru-type leader. Miss Atkins, a prosecution witness who hopes to save herself from the gas chamber, claimed that she was present but did not participate in the murders committed by the gang. At least eight members took part in one or another of the murders, say police, although the leader, Charles Manson, 35, did not participate in the killings himself, but confined himself to directing them.

Miss Atkins said that Manson had ordered the Tate murders on Aug. 9, the murder of Musician Gary Hinman on July 25, and those of Mr. and Mrs. Leno LaBianca on Aug. 10. Hinman was allegedly murdered because he would not turn over $20,000 that Manson thought he had. Miss Atkins and another Manson follower are charged in that murder. The LaBiancas were picked at random from among the affluent, she said, the night after the Tate murders, just to prove that the killers had not lost their nerve. The Tate victims did not even know Manson. They died, she said, because Manson, an aspiring songwriter, nursed a grudge against Doris Day’s son, Terry Melcher, who refused to have one of Manson’s songs recorded. Miss Tate had rented the Melcher house, and Manson ordered everyone in it killed, presumably not even knowing who the tenants at the time were—or caring.
I'm including an older David McGowan interview - Half of it touches on the Manson murders





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Saturday, November 18, 2017

Pentagon Staying In Syria, As Expected, Even Though ISIS Defeated.

As if  "defeating" ISIS was ever the purpose for the US being in Syria??
The intent of the US to occupy Syria has been mentioned repeatedly here:

Flashback: July 19/2017US Increases Military Posts in Kurd Annexed Syria: Vindicated Again

Flashback:June 29/2017-  US eyes arms for Kurdish YPG fighters in Syria even after Raqqa’s fall
Annexation/Occupation Forces for Syria
Destabilization for Turkey
"US Defense Secretary Jim Mattis on Tuesday left open the possibility of longer-term assistance to the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) in Syria, saying the US may need to supply them weapons and equipment even after the capture of Raqqa from ISIS.
Flashback: March 2017:  Double Standards and Lies: Splitting Syria for Greater Kurdistan
Quoting myself from the March post "The Americans fully intend to become occupiers-"

Quite certain I could go back farther still to demonstrate just how long I've been reporting on the US intent to stay on as occupiers in Syria..


National Petroleum/War Making Radio



"But the recapture of ISIS-held territory in Iraq and Syria is only a partial win for U.S. policy. After seven years of civil war, the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad remains in power. The other U.S. objectives — the end of the Assad regime, a new Syrian constitution and democratic elections — remain unfulfilled.

Despite the defeat of ISIS, Defense Secretary James Mattis told reporters this week that U.S. forces will remain in Syria.

The intention, he said, is to prevent the appearance of "ISIS 2.0."

There are hundreds of U.S. troops in Syria. Pentagon officials say the U.S. is on solid legal ground to be there because the U.N. Security Council endorsed the anti-ISIS mission. But Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov says the U.S. presence is "illegitimate."

"There are a lot of questions to ask about the United States' goals in Syria," Lavrov said, according to the Russian news agency TASS. "U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has told me many times that their only goal is to defeat IS."

A change in regime "runs counter to the Geneva agreements and ... assurances that the U.S.'s only goal in Syria is to fight terrorism," Lavrov said.

Assad and his Russian and Iranian allies are demanding the U.S. leave Syria.

The next meeting of the Geneva peace talks is Nov. 28. The U.S. is pressing for the Syrian Democratic Forces and the Syrian Kurds to be at the negotiating table.

But it's unlikely that Assad and the Russians will agree to that. With Russian and Iranian military assistance, Assad has emerged as the dominant political and military force in Syria with no need to accommodate his opponents.

Pentagon officials say the Russians and Syrians continue to move east toward rebel-held territory. The U.S. is attempting to work with Russia to establish "de-confliction zones," but it's not clear the effort will succeed.

What's more, U.S. ally Israel is increasingly concerned about the presence of Iranian forces in Syria, not far from the Israeli border. Russia has rejected both U.S. and Israeli objections to the Iranian presence"
Israel is so concerned they took shots at SAA in Syria today! 

IDF fires warning shots at Assad army in the Syrian Golan Heights
Yoav Zitun|Published:  18.11.17 , 16:01
The IDF fired warning shots at a Druze village in the northern Syrian Golan Heights on Saturday.

The IDF stated that the move was carried out due to the Syrian army's fortification work at one of its posts in the area.
NPR Continued....
Pentagon officials say the U.S. has one asset to advance its interests in Syria — money. The country needs to be rebuilt, and the belief is that Russia lacks the will or the resources to do it.

The U.S. is spending money now in Raqqa on what it calls "stabilization" and will likely help elsewhere but hopes Saudi Arabia and the other Arab states will finance most of the rebuilding — in exchange for a political settlement of the Syrian conflict.
What ever does the US mean by stabilization? 

Flashback:  Rebuilding Raqqa: Strengthening Terror Armies with "construction" contracts
 Stabilization = Strengthening Terror Armies
NPR: Yet this would seem to run counter to the Trump administration's aversion to "nation building." A strategy acceptable to Damascus may not be accepted in the White House.
Donald Trump has no aversion to nation building/nation busting up. What ever!


US ready to ‘fight for justice’ in Syria without UN approval – Haley

Despite the UN not giving the greenlight for a full-fledged campaign in Syria, US Defense Secretary James Mattis claimed that the organization sanctioned action there, justifying it with the struggle against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) terrorists. Damascus has repeatedly blasted the US for operating on Syrian territory without its consent and in violation of international law, and views the US presence as an invasion.

“With the unity of this council, or alone, unrestrained by Russia’s obstructionism, we will continue to fight for justice and accountability in Syria,” Haley said

Grab a barf bag- It's Nikki Haley